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11:15 am
I would like to create this topic to find out what are your thoughts on being Bicultural in Europe. Would you say that this is an advantage or disadvantage? Is it easier or harder ? Are Europeans as tolerant as they would like to appear in reality or not? Can you think of anything else regarding Biculturalism in Europe? – please share your thoughts :)
12:25 am
hmm interesting question! I, too, would be interested in reading what people have to say.
As for me, I am bicultural, living in Austria, but I find it excessively difficult to answer this question.
Simply because I do not know whether it is "easier or harder" than being …. monocultural? I can't say, because I have been bicultural my whole life, so I have no basis of comparison. Easier or harder than … living elsewhere, you mean? Same problem here, I have no basis of comparison since I don't know whether living a bicultural life in France is the same as in Austria. My guess is that it is probably not the same. It would also depend on whether you live in the country (more traditional, monocultural) or in the city, which is usually multicultural.
I can speak of my experiences, but need to emphasize that Austria is NOT representative of ALL of Europe – no one EU country can be representative of a heterogeneous continent that consists of 45 different countries with equally many cultures. And I would not dare compare my experiences of a country life in a traditional part of Austria to other continents like Asia or the Americas out of fear of generalizing; and comparing it to my life in, say, NYC, is like comparing apples and pears.
Advantage or disadvantage – in what sense? Could you be more specific?
In what sense do you think that "Europeans" like to appear tolerant, but might not be in reality?
I am wondering whether the actual question that you would really like to get at is whether, as a bicultural in a European country, one seems to experience more discrimination than in other countries?
3:47 am
I know it is quite big and complex question, but I decided
to write it like that, because I did not want to put any boundaries when it
comes to answering it. What I am interested in is what people have to say on
the question from their own experience. For me it does not really matter if you
have been living in more traditional country or not, if you are living in
eastern or western Europe. What I am
interested is just the experience people can share.
Is it easier or more difficult? What I mean by that is whether
you feel that if you were monocultural would be easier or harder. Have you had
experiences when you thought to yourself “Now if I was not bicultural it would
be easier to achieve that.” or “I’m so glad I am bicultural in this and that
situation”. I do not want to put any boundaries regarding the issue. Easier or
harder socially, professionally or in terms of laws and regulations. Whatever you
feel like writing about.
I believe that it is wide known that Europeans are presented
as tolerant people, or at least they want to be perceived as such. Can you
share any experiences that prove or disprove their tolerance?
After having all this said, I would just like to sum up –
you can answer the question from your own point of view – no boundaries, no
wrong answers. Whatever you feel like writing on the question will be highly
appreciated.
1:02 am
Geri, I spent quite a bit of time thinking about your question and be forewarned: I'm not going to give you a concrete answer. Yes, it is a big and complex question, and I think that it is not possible to answer the question in a big and general way. Europe is culturally and language-wise a very heterogeneous region. That Europe managed, after the horrors of WW2, to come together and form something like the European Union, where it is possible to travel without a passport, is in my personal view a miracle in itself. Maybe this is what you mean when you refer to Europe as a tolerant country.
I could, however, give you at least a dozen counter-examples that illustrate that Europe is not as tolerant as it might appear from the outside. Maybe the increased globalization and increased loss of national sovereignty (in the context of the EU) contributed towards a fear of cultural loss and loss of identity. Maybe migration from within the EU and from outside the EU also contributes. This, I think, could be a contributing factor why political parties with xenophobic programs start to gain increasing number of votes in more and more European countries, also (or especially) in those which were considered traditionally very tolerant and liberal. And I do want to leave the counterargument unmentioned that, yes, in the past many cross-cultural problems apparently were not sufficiently addressed and solved by politics. Certain hot topics were simply not addressed out of (in my opinion) the issue of "political correctness". Just turn on the TV and watch the political debates. In the case of immigration (be it from outside the EU, or from EU internal migration), the fear of loss of cultural identity can be found on many sides (by the migrant as well as the "original natives") . There is the saying, that the European Union is in the heads of the people, but not yet in their hearts. It's ironic that in even in Belgium, which seats the European capital Bruxelles, there are language conflicts, which have been going on for years, and there are many other examples, even within a small country such as Austria.
Another point: Growing up bilingually (multilingually) in Europe is nothing unusual. And trust me, these languages can be very different from each other and from the national language German, here in Austria where I live. After a one hour drive north I will end up in the Czech Republic (Czech language), northeast you can find Slovakia (different pronunciation than Czech). A short drive east of Vienna, the capital of Austria, they speak Hungarian. In the eastern Provinces of Austria they speak increasingly Croatian (but not the same one which is spoken in Croatia). South you can find Slovenian. And there is also a border to Italy (language Italian). For me, as a native German speaker, having been raised in "High German", it is impossible to understand the "Swiss German" spoken only a few hundred km West of where I live. But luckily the Swiss have two other national languages, Italian and French, to choose from. There are (including sign language) a total of seven recognized minority languages in Austria alone. These languages are not the most common languages, however. Right after German, we have Turkish as the most widely spoken language, followed by Serbian (Wikipedia).
Ah, before I forget: Spanish is starting to over take French as the most popular third language (after Engilsh) as an elective course in Austrian schools, and everyone who wants to study a social science, any language, medicine or law in Austrian universities have to pass an exam in Latin (unless they took it in school).
Practical consequences: Compare this situation with the US, for example. It's possible for someone living in California to apply for a job in Washington DC and then move to that place. In Europe this is not always possible. People are much more sessile, not only due to cultural issues, but also due to language barriers. If people now do start to move to a different area, than it is immediately evident that they are not locals, if they can speak the language of that country at all. Even within the same language this is the case, where there are strong local accents.
No wonder some people suggest that a culturally neutral language, such as the constructed language of Esperanto, should become the "national language" of Europe.
To what extent does the ability to speak several languages automatically make you multicultural? This is a question also of definition, and so complex that this topic can be covered in a pHD thesis, but not in a blog comment….. Anyone care to comment?
11:40 am
I'm American married to a German raising two kids in Switzerland, and I think multicultural is more difficult at times but a lot less limiting.
I do think the basic exposure that most Europeans have to other cultures makes the awareness that things can be different higher, and I think that just having the thought that things could be different and trying to accommodate for the differences is beneficial. This is regardless of being able to speak a different language. For example, my mother speaks no German but really takes in her surroundings to see how folks are behaving and tries to emulate them to fit in. Being in Europe came at a later stage in her life (after I moved to Europe as an adult), and at first she hung back a lot, so much to the point that I thought our roles were reversed. Because I have more multicultural experience, I tend to think I'm less daunted about different environments.
As Oliver already pointed out, these days there also seems to be more of a backlash against those that are different. The German-speaking Swiss are not as keen on speaking high German for their neighbors as they once were. Movies are also more often dubbed than they were fifteen years ago, when I moved here and loved watching films in theaters in their original language with subtitles in both German and French.
I find myself checking sometimes what I say/do because I have split loyalties. I cannot always commiserate with some American or German friends living here, as over the years I identify myself with the Swiss way of life. With young children it can be a challenge to have them make lasting American friends, as they'll often move away after an expat contract is up. And the European bureaucracy is just something I can live without, even if I understand all the hoops to jump through.
Nonetheless I smile when my daughter starts referring to a lion in Swiss German instead of high German or when she starts greeting people she passes on the streets in our neighborhood. I wouldn't trade being multicultural. Sure, my daughter might get frustrated at times when her German grandparents don't understand her Swiss German vocabulary, but she'll have the knowledge to explain and translate into English for her American grandma too!
9:55 pm
another response from an austrian (born and raised)
i grew up monocultural, in a pretty monolingual family, in a mostly monocultural community. i made a point in making friends with foreigners, especially because i was always drawn to multiculturalism. i have only spent a very short time with my egyptian (back then) fiance, and let me tell you: it was horrible. my immidiate family was very accepting and loving, and most of my close friends as well. but when we went out together everyone stared at us. many people made very rude commends and warned me of getting married to "one of those arabs". i can tell you that this was very hard, and that i am happy to not put my husband in this situation right now (we live in the us).
i believe there is a great difference in how europeans (and in this case i can talk of pretty much all of western europe) see multiculturalism: if you are american married to a european, or if there are two people from different countries in the west married, it is pretty darn cool. your children grow up with french and german? how amazing! english and italian? how lucky they are!
but as soon as there are turks involved, or eastern europeans, asians, africans or people from the middle east: not so good. these people are often looked down at, and unfortionately there is a lot of racism.
i think the general view is: if both partners are from the western world: big advantage, if not: disadvantage (because of ignorance and prejudice).
let me give you a specific example using two schools. on one hand you have the american international school with a great diversity and then you have a austrian school with even greater diversity. the american school is held in high esteem, the austrian international school is very much looked down at. why? because most people who go to the austrian international school are turks, middle easterners, eastern europeans and africans. but most students in the american school are from the states, and other countries that have a great image in europe. sad, isn't it?
of course not every one sees it that way, and i have many friends who think multiculturalism is fantastic, no matter where the couple comes from, and i might be speaking out of hurt and frustration i faced with my multiculturalism. my experience here in the states has been a lot better, people are fascinated and interested in our story and life.
i also have a lot of friends in europe that are from eastern europe and parts of africa and they feel very comfortable in austria, even though there is a lot of racism. but there are a lot of people who fight racism with all their might.
i just saw, that all the other posts are from like, two years ago, but i'll post it anyway :)
1:51 pm
In my experience of being English married to an Albanian and living and raising our kids in Italy, the issue of multiculturalism seems quite daunting. While I love my adoptive country I don't want to adopt all their culture, nor yet that of my husband and his family. However, I have come to the conclusion that essentially we all have our own individual culture. For instance, what I try to teach my kids as being "English" is not the same as my friends who are from other backgrounds or areas in England. Thus I have discovered that I'm teaching them "Kate" rather than "English" culture, but this is being mixed with the "Italian" and "Albanian" culture. In some ways I used to feel sorry for my kids, that they wouldn't necessarily feel like they belong anywhere because of their mix of language and culture. Now, I'm sure they'll create their own cultures and nest, the same way I have, and if we're honest, we all have, mono-cultural, monolingual or not.
4:45 pm
After reading some of the comments I'm glad I found this page, I'm a Catalan living in Edinburgh and I wanted to say that I kind of agree with what has been said about the "cons of Europe" (not that tolerant, looking down on people from outside the UE)but I wanted to add my little experience on this.
As a Catalan (Barcelona, north east of Spain) I've been raised in two cultures, Spanish and Catalan. And well, whenever I'm asked "where are you from" I'd have to say I'm Catalan, probably because it's been my dominant language, and there are two reactions after I pronounce that: ignorance on the subject (np) or a raised eyebrow saying "you're a radical".
Unfortunately I've encountered that in the multicultural Europe, in the country I live in, Spain doesn't want nor ever will acknowledge our existence as a separate nation living within them. One country one nation. Of course we're not dealing with nationalities here and I'm not particulary keen of that discussion but my point is, what 's going to happen to my language and culture?
I mentione it because I don't think Spain is the only country dealing with that issue, unluckily thery're not dealing with it in a European way, whatever that is. It should protect multiculturalism but in some cases, it can't be bothered because politics, shame on it.
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